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Loung Ung was born into a prominent family, her father a member of the Cambodian Royal Secret Service under Prince Sihanouk. As a young girl, Ung was separated from her family during Cambodias civil war, and trained to become a child soldier. Both her parents and two of her siblings had died under Pol Pots Khmer Rouge regime, before Ung escaped, eventually settling in Vermont through sponsorship from the Holy Family Church.
When Ung returned to the United States, she joined the staff of Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation in its Campaign for a Landmine Free World.
Some 60 to 70 million anti-personnel landmines are deployed in 68 countries. Every 22 seconds, a person is killed or maimed by a landmine, with 30 to 40 percent of the victims under age 15, estimates UNICEF. As a spokesperson for Vietnam Veterans of America Foundations Campaign for a Landmine Free World, Ung has given talks at universities, conferences and corporations. Ung is also the author of First They Killed My Father, which chronicles her experiences in Cambodia. Ung talks to AsianWeek about her activism. AsianWeek: How did you get involved inCampaign for a Landmine Free World? Loung Ung: When I went back to Cambodia, in 1995, I was just overwhelmed by all the landmine victims surrounding the airport. The minute you get out of the airport there are all these amputees that are begging. Then, when I went to the market and when I went to the temple, and when I went to the restaurant, just everywhere you went in Cambodia, there were amputees.
AW: Were they of all ages or from a certain generation? LU: All ages women, men, young children, older men. When I came back to the United States, I was shocked to find out that we had over 40,000 amputees in Cambodia, for a population of only 10 million people. I also found out that there were approximately 46 million landmines in Cambodia a country the size of Oklahoma.
AW: Were these from the war in the late 70s? LU: Some of them were from the war but a lot of them are from after the war. During the war, the landmines were more localized. But right after the war, when people were trying to escape across the borders or trying to go back home, the Pol Pot regime planted more mines to keep people in place. Right after the war, when people were going home to go to their lands, they were stepping on landmines at a rate of about 500 people per month. And now the numbers are still 50 to a 100 people every month.
AW: Has Thailand or any other bordering countries planted landmines as a deterrent for Cambodians to cross into their country? LU: Many of the mines are just in Cambodia. During the war a lot of people had put landmines in Cambodia, such as U.S. troops, Vietnamese troops, the Cambodian government and the Khmer Rouge. The Khmer Rouge put a lot of landmines on the border to prevent people from going to Thailand and to prevent people from coming in. If you saw the movie The Killing Fields, it shows as people tried to escape Cambodia after the war, they were stepping on mines. Pol Pot called the mines his silent sentinels of death and his eternal soldiers. So when I went back to Cambodia and saw this, it was just so shocking to me I decided to join the campaign. AW: What is the organizations plan for removing these landmines?
AW: What would you say to people who believe that banning landmines is unrealistic because they are a cheap and effective weapons during time of war? LU: They really dont have great military utility. A lot of countries have given them up. They are cheap, but once in the ground it costs $500 to $1,000 to get a mine out, which cost $3. Therefore, its not cheap or effective; in the long run, its very expensive. Decades after the war is over, people are still struggling to build their lives theyre having a hard time surviving in peace years after the war. Groups all over the world have seen the ineffectiveness of landmines from different countries, from military people, to doctors, to students.
AW: In Cambodia, where were these landmines manufactured? LU: Cambodia got a lot of the landmines from China during the war. But countries that still produce landmines include Vietnam, India, Pakistan, South and North Korea. Right now, countries like Angola and Sierra Leone, because of the ongoing war, still continue to put landmines in the ground.
AW: Are there any efforts to get these countries that are manufacturing landmines to assist in taking these landmine out? LU: Theres an international treaty to ban landmines, which has been signed by over a 136 countries. Its been signed by most of our allies, including most of our NATO allies and most of our friends in Africa. The countries that havent sign the treaty are India, Pakistan, China, Russia, North and South Korea, and the United States. So its been hard for us in the United States to put pressure on these countries. The treaty to ban landmines also has a provision that the countries stop manufacturing them, stop producing them, help with the removal of landmines, and help with victim assistance. Even China and Russia had said theyll consider the treaty, and we really think they will sign once the United States takes that first step.
AW: Are landmines found in certain areas of a country where people can avoid them? LU: A lot of the mines are dropped from the air from airplanes. And sometimes, especially in Asia, we have a lot of natural disasters. We get a lot of floods, a lot of rains. The mines shift and get carried to different places. What was a landmine field last year may not be a landmine field this year.
AW: How do landmines affect families and the larger society? LU: Landmines dont hurt just the people who step on them. They hurt the whole society and the economy. If a father steps on a landmine, a lot of times the family has no way of earning income. The father is out of a job, or is in the hospital. The kids have to go out and try to make money by collecting firewood, or going to the trash heap to find scrap metal to sell. If a mother steps on a landmine, sometimes the husband brings in another wife to take care of the kids, or sometimes the husband will take the kids and leave.
AW: So landminds are not only a health issue, but a social and economic issue as well? LU: It dismantled the whole society, from its economy, to religion, to psychology, to the environment. They cant even farm. Since they cant farm, conflict in the home is much higher. Psychologically, every time you hear of someone stepping on a mine, youre reliving the wars past. I went through the war, and there are certain triggers that will bring me back, like lack of food when Im really hungry. The color red really does a number on me; sometimes its sounds of fireworks. Or, if the plane is flying too low, it brings me right back to the war. And for people who step on it, its the war again. In regard to religion, a lot of Cambodians are farmers and a lot of our deities are land and river based. Now the land is the enemy where can they go? There is no sanctuary. Theyve dismantled the whole society.
AW: So there is a fear to go back to the land? LU: Oh, Im very fearful. I mean as a tourist, Im afraid. My siblings are afraid. We have over 40,000 amputees. One out of every 242 people in Cambodia are amputees.
AW: When people think of Cambodia, they think of the Khmer Rouge and the Killing Fields, but it seems like there are new issues that need to be addressed, which the general public is unaware of. LU: Absolutely. The country is very hopeful right now. Its beautiful. Many more tourists are going in. Movies are going in to shoot in Cambodia. The big movie that was shot in Cambodia this year was Tomb Raiders. Its starting to be safe again, its starting to be beautiful again, but for the indigenous people its a slow process. What we have done regarding landmines has worked. Instead of 500 people a month stepping on landmines, right now its 50 to a 100 people, depending if its rainy season or not. Our work is achieving results but its still slow in coming.
AW: I hear youre also involved in bringing people in the Pol Pot regime to justice. LU: Im doing a bit of research here and there. But Im trying to stay as nonpolitical as I can. We all have family in Cambodia, you just have to be careful. I do assist people but Im not going to take a front role in that. Itll just be too dangerous for my family and myself. [But] I think people in the central committee should most definitely be held accountable.
AW: Are those who were recruited as child soldiers feeling guilty now that they are old enough to understand more completely the consequences of their actions? LU: I definitely think there are a lot of people feeling guilty about it. Thankfully, I was so young. I was never in the frontlines. But I know people who were in the frontline and they cant talk about it I know these people came to the United States and now they are good productive citizens, but if people found out about their past, they would be attacked. So their whole livelihood, their whole safe existence would be threatened. There is not one of us, who went through the war, who went through what we did, who didnt compromise something. No one came out of this experience intact. I stole; I beat up people; we stole food from people who were weak. There is a lot of guilt in that. But I wrote a book about that so if they are going to attack me which they have what am I going to do about it?
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