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NM: Well, theres no question that this was a surprise attack by a remorseless enemy who was set out to devastate our economy, our government, our military structure. That was their modus operandi. To me this should always be remembered in terms of the murder of over 3,000 civilians. This is greatest number of deaths that has ever occurred in U.S. history. So we should remember how to be prepared, and make sure that something like this never ever occurs again.
AW: A year has gone by since this happened. What do you feel you and your department have accomplished to attack this problem of terrorism? NM: Weve done a great deal. Congress for the first time made aviation security and security for all modes of transportation a federal responsibility. In the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, what Congress did was to tell us what to do, how to do it and when to do it. And we have met some one dozen of these dates that they mandated. We have two remaining dates: One is Nov. 19, in which all passenger screeners who are federal employees [must] be in place, and the other is Dec. 31, when all baggage going on an aircraft will be put through an explosive detection system. Im confident we will meet both of these dates. We will have some 30 to 33,000 screeners on board. I think we will have 20,000 screeners doing the passenger, rather than the baggage, screening.
AW: Are you still insisting security screeners be American citizens? NM: Well, its an insistence based on the law that Congress passed. Congress said that they had to be U.S. citizens and be proficient in English. They had to be high school graduates or have a GED or work experience equivalent to the work that they were employed to do. A number of these requirements are in the law, so we have no leeway in terms of deviating.
AW: You have opposed racial profiling in the past in tracking down potential terrorists. Is there any kind of profiling that can be used to narrow it down so old ladies in wheelchairs are not stopped and inspected, or a woman nursing her child? NM: First of all, from a security perspective, racial profiling has never worked. It is not a sound basis for which security can be administered. There are other things that are much more important that we ought to be dealing with. In our screening or security process, we start with something called CAPS, the computer-assisted passenger prescreening system. Through this computerized system, theres an objective analysis of every passenger. Then we couple the knowledge that we have about the passenger with behavior, because thats whats more important in terms of dealing with potential troublemakers. Sure in the past, weve heard stories about grandmothers who get pulled out of the line, children who are wanded, but what we are doing now is coming up with a new CAPS system. Weve dubbed it CAPS II. Nothing original about that, but CAPS II is a much more sophisticated approach on identifying potential selectees for further scrutiny. Hopefully by the end of this year, we will have it in place. But our experience and the experience of security people is that knowledge about the passenger, citizenship, behavior, where have they been traveling all of these things are much more important than straight racial profiling.
AW: What can the consumer expect or hope to have with the changes taking place in airport security to make it more convenient for them to fly, especially with some of the airlines declaring bankruptcy? NM: First of all, the system of passenger security was the responsibility of the airline or the airport. But with the new legislation, it has become the direct responsibility of the federal government. Under the old system, screeners were given roughly six hours of classroom training and 40 hours of on-the-job training. Now our requirement for our new federal employee workforce is 44 hours classroom training and 60 hours on-the-job training. And on top of that, were rotating these employees to keep them more alert on their job, because if some of these screeners spend more than a half hour looking at that monitor, theyll not be very attentive. So we have changed the procedure a great deal in terms of the training as well as the expectation of the passenger screening force.
AW: There is the possibility of moving the Transportation Security Administration and the Coast Guard to the new Homeland Security Department. How do you feel about that? NM:The legislation that passed the House does move the Coast Guard and Transportation Security Administration to the Homeland Security Department. The bill that the Senate is considering does the same thing. I have no problem with that. Even though I hate to lose both of those agencies, I think in the interest of homeland security, its the right approach.
AW: When you were nominated by President Bush as Secretary of Transportation, your friend and former congressman, Leon Panetta, advised you to take the job saying it would be a piece of cake. In retrospect, what do you think about Panettas prediction? NM:Of course, the whole issue of the transformation of the Department of Transportation from, you might say, a back-bench agency to one that has been thrust in the forefront of whats happening is something that no one predicted. And so from that perspective, its been an exciting challenge. We have good people here in the department. Both in terms of work with the Congress and with the stakeholders the airlines, the airports, pilot groups, others its been a magnificent experience.
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