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Obama and That Questionnaire

By: Emil Guillermo, Jan 18, 2008
Tags: Emil Amok, Opinion |

The passion is coursing through the veins of Asian American political activists around the country. Everyone seems to have come alive for this year’s presidential race, and heightened sensitivities are a good thing.

All you have to do is suggest that a candidate — especially a Democratic one — is less than responsive to our community, and, well, those become fighting words. The partisans come out of nowhere with their sticks.

Witness the response when I commented on how Barack Obama treated 80-20, a national grassroots political organization for Asian Americans.

This riled up some progressives, who bristle at any thing negative about their perceived golden boy. One reader was positively insulting in his response that resorted to name-calling of your humble scribe, as well as a personal attack of 80-20’s leader S.B. Woo, a former lieutenant governor of Delaware.

Little was said about the substance of the column, which simply asked why Obama didn’t respond to a fairly innocuous questionnaire by 80-20 that asked all the candidates for a commitment to APAs on employment rights and federal judgeships, including the Supreme Court.

80-20 got all the answers back from most of the major Democratic candidates, but not from Obama. Nothing like a political organization spurned. It began a “Defeat Obama” Internet campaign.

A tad extreme? Perhaps. But in last week’s column, I asked for Obama’s peeps to let me know why the senator didn’t answer in a timely fashion.

In a response from the Obama camp to me, the hesitance was over the language in two of the questions. For example: “If elected, will you within your first term of office increase the nomination of qualified Asian Americans to serve as Article III life-tenured federal judges, such that the number of such judges is proportionate to HALF the number of Asian Americans in the United States?”

The wording, according to the campaign, implied a quota, and Obama is against anything illegal, let alone quotas. So that was the stalemate in the negotiations.

But Woo took it as an arrogant snub, and insists that the Obama camp never suggested alternate wording. He says the fact remains: They just didn’t answer the questionnaire. The tempest grew.

Meanwhile, supporters of Obama were downright nasty in suggesting it was some dirty trick and chided Woo for his questionnaire method. Never mind that it is an effective and direct shorthand method that cuts to the chase. One person called it the “swift boating” of Obama, a reference to the campaign lies lodged against Sen. John Kerry in 2004. I assure you there is no swift boating here, no dirty trickery.

The fact is Obama’s surrogates blew it. They should have found a way to indicate their unwavering support for affirmative action and the positions espoused by 80-20. Then, this would not have become such a point of contention.

A more significant issue is why neither Obama nor Clinton raised any concerns about the black-brown discussion last week in Las Vegas that excluded Asian Americans.

This has been the case in previous “minority” forums and still continues. The fact that we aren’t even seen on the national stage makes the 80-20 questionnaire issue more relevant than many care to admit. Such questionnaires may be the only time our issues are the focus of any candidate’s attention.

But now the campaign moves to California, and it’s readily apparent that this state is beyond the black/white or black/brown paradigms that politicos are comfortable with.

Here they must deal with yellow, and that really was the point about any perceived snub between 80-20 and Obama.

So regard this whole episode as a good precursor to the weeks ahead when the candidates will contest the most populous Asian American state in the country.  It assures a lively debate, not among the candidates, but amongst ourselves as to which candidate will best serve our community.

So far, Clinton has a double-digit lead over Obama in some California polls.  That may not last. I was surprised by the mixture of support for Obama among a broad age demographic: dreamers all. More on them next week.

emil@amok.com

Comments

  1. A questionnaire sounds like a very good, fair thing to do. If Obama didn’t like one question, he could have crossed that out and answered the rest.

    –Flora Steele on Jan 18, 2008

  2. “Obama and That Questionnaire?” Can you, Emil, get anymore blatant about your politics? The fact is that this issue has been nothing more than “80-20 and Their Questionnaire as an Excuse to Attack a Candidate”, just because they so happens to support another.

    –sabastian on Jan 18, 2008

  3. While many Obama supporters responded to your previous column with heated emotions, Emil, many others have also provided a lot of valuable and level-headed comments that your latest column ignores.

    In particular, I would highlight what was written by Ramey Ko, who made a point of praising S.B. Woo while explaining the shortcomings in his organization’s campaign against the senator. Ko went on to argue that there is a copious number of API leaders who support Obama, while offering a great deal of evidence for how Obama has in turn shown support for our community.

    All this information is available for those who care to look. However, instead of owning up to the fact that the picture is broader than the one you care to paint, this follow up merely fans the flames by honing in on some of the more contentious comments.

    And don’t say that none of your readers didn’t have explanations for why the Obama campaign showed resistance to the questionnaire (as you put it, “Little was said about the substance of the column, which simply asked why Obama didn’t respond to a fairly innocuous questionnaire”). Many offered very good reasons, but you’ve ignored them.

    It’s disappointing and disheartening to read this follow up, which continues to represent the issue in a divisive light. I encourage the editors of AsianWeek to run a column which balances out these last two. Otherwise, I fear that many of the paper’s readers will, based on an incomplete portrayal, write off the candidate who has been all along proving himself our staunch advocate.

    –Alec on Jan 18, 2008

  4. See what real grassroots Asian Americans are doing for Obama in Nevada:

    htpp://nv.apaforobama.com

    –Keith Kamisugi on Jan 18, 2008

  5. As a fiercely patriotic Asian American with a genuine desire to see us become a better nation through equal opportunity and justice for ALL people, I am committed to fight for the civil rights of Asian Americans, the last of the discriminated minority groups in the US. This is why I am serving on the Board of 80-20 Initiative. I am very proud to say that Asian Americans could hardly have asked for a more dedicated Board of Directors. Regardless of our party affiliations or ethnic heritage, we all parked them outside the meeting room when we carefully and thoughtfully deliberate the best political course of action for Asian Americans.

    And as one who is familiar with the negotiation process, not only with Senator Obama, but other candidates, I’d like to set the record straight, once for all, so there is no more conjecturing:

    Senator Obama was given MORE consideration and accommodation than any other Democratic presidential candidate. He was given the IDENTICAL questionnaire that Senators Clinton and Edwards signed. See http://www.80-20initiative.net/news/preselect2008_clinton.asp
    He also had the option of signing the slightly different questionnaire signed earlier by Senators Biden, Dodd and Gravel. But neither was of any interest to him

    Senator Obama’s campaign never took us seriously and did not negotiate in good faith. Only as the deadline approached after 6 long months, did they then voice nonspecific concerns about the language. They offered NO alternative language or counter-proposals. And even though we made it very clear we were not interested in a “sweet-words but no measurable promise” letter which we had previously rejected from another leading candidate—that was exactly what we got, and Senator Obama did not even bother to sign it. See http://www.80-20initiative.net/news/preselect2008_obama12.26.07.asp

    That was how seriously Senator Obama took our genuine grievance and rightful concerns.

    We were extremely disappointed. If Senator Obama refused to support Asian Americans beyond sweet words, we knew that as an Asian American PAC, we’d have no choice but to challenge his candidacy, since he’d compete directly with other candidates who support us. We did not want to do that if at all avoidable. This is why, in a last ditch effort to engage Senator Obama in earnest dialog, we wrote to him again, in our Open Letter of January 12, 2008. See http://8020politicalpower.blogspot.com/2008/01/open-letter-to-sen-obama.html

    Even though several of 80-20’s board members were Obama supporters and wanted to see him succeed, we were saddened by the telling silence and willful refusal by the Obama camp to engage in any form of good faith negotiations. Instead, his campaign cranks up his mighty political machinery to try to discredit 80-20’s honorable, firm but respectful quest for equality.

    The internet is full of posts by Obama’s supporters insinuating “unfair” and “swift boating” treatment by 80-20. These charges are totally false! There is a lot of regrettable name calling and fact twisting, and we feel victimized. Hopefully these are actions not condoned by Senator Obama. It’d have been much more constructive if he had instructed his deputies to engage in earnest negotiations and to stop the pre-emptive mud-slinging.

    Senator Obama’s effusive grand plan of change is alluring to the ears. But when pressed to make commitments to rightful causes, his stone silence and inaction is deafening and crystal clear.

    Why couldn’t he just sign the SAME questionnaire that other leading candidates have had no problem signing?? What is he specifically objecting to in the Questionnaire and why won’t he point them out?

    Asian Americans who believed in Obama have had a painful awakening to reality. Our civil rights battle will go on without him. We are left with no choice but to support the candidate who support us and who is most likely to win the next presidency. We must now focus our energies to supporting Senator Clinton. Her victory will mean a victory for all Asian Americans in the long and important fight for equal opportunity and Justice. Thank you

    Ed

    Dr. Edward Lin
    Director
    80-20 Initiative (http://www.80-20initiative.net)
    Equal Opportunity and Justice for ALL Asian Americans

    Encourage Inspire Empower

    “You must be the change you wish to see in the world” Mahatma Gandhi

    –Edward Lin on Jan 18, 2008

  6. P.S.

    To our 700,000 staunch Asian American supporters, thank you for your support and solidarity in our common firm and dignified quest for a fair share of the American dream. Regardless what our detractors may say in their attempt to divide and conquer us, keep the faith. We will not let you down.

    Dr. Edward Lin
    Director
    80-20 Initiative (http://www.80-20initiative.net)
    Equal Opportunity and Justice for ALL Asian Americans

    Encourage Inspire Empower

    “You must be the change you wish to see in the world” Mahatma Gandhi

    –Edward Lin on Jan 18, 2008

  7. Ed, for a upstanding board member of 80-20, your explanation above is such an insult to the intelligence of most Asian American political activists following this issue, and sady to say, insufficiant at best in trying to logically explain yourselves and your hidden political motives. And when your negative tacts come bouncing back, you are left to blame Obama’s supporters? Yours and 80-20’s unilateral attack campaign attack one candidate, on Barack Obama, continues to perpetuate what is blatantly evident: 80-20’s hypocrisy of being a “non-partisan” group fighting for “all Asian Americans.”

    Anyone looking at 80-20’s website will NOT be fooled that you are actually an Anti-Obama group. Refute this fact: EVERY single “News” item on the front page of your national website is focused and directed at ONE Democratic candidate to defeat for the Presidency.

    Why didn’t 80-20 just endorse Hillary Clinton on the outset and save our community from further division and thus weakening our common causes? Why all the troubles of insisting on this carrot and sticks game with our allies…all the while letting the Republicans off the hook…so they can continue to laugh in our faces?

    Truly, as you said, “There is a lot of regrettable name calling and fact twisting,” but to claim that you and 80-20 now “we feel victimized,” is just totally bizarre and the best work of fiction I have ever seen. It’s unbelievable the stuff you guys put out (don’t you read your own stuff?), then insult us for somehow victimizing you?

    –Mai on Jan 18, 2008

  8. Something is seriously wrong here. We have 2 stories that directly contradict each other. Obama’s staff sent this response, which was posted in the other article:
    ____________
    In an effort to further reach out to the AAPI community, the Obama campaign attempted to establish a dialogue with you regarding the 80-20 Educational Foundation’s questionnaire in December 2007. On Friday, December 14, 2007, Obama campaign staff had engaged in a phone conversation with you to discuss concerns regarding the wording of the questionnaire. The staff members had requested you to consider changes to questions 4 and 5, both of which relate to appointing AAPI judges, because of concerns that the questions implied a de facto quota. As you are aware, Senator Obama is a strong supporter of affirmative action and enhancing opportunities for Asian Americans, but he is a staunch opponent of the quota systems. The staff members requested that you consider modifying the wording of those questions to resemble the wording of question 6, which addresses considering qualified AAPIs for the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, you refused to consider modifications of the questions, and refused our request to explore other alternatives that would allow the Obama campaign to submit the completed questionnaire to the members of 80-20. In response to the 80-20 questionnaire as written, the Obama campaign did send you a letter confirming Senator Obama’s commitment to the enhancement of representation of Asian Americans in the federal judiciary system and ensuring equal opportunity in the workplace for not only Asian Americans, but for all Americans. Apparently, that was not acceptable to you.
    _________________

    So, depending on which side you believe, either Obama’s staff refused work with 80/20 or 80/20 refused to modify the questionaire based on Obama’s staff suggestions.

    Also, the other logical fallacy that isn’t being addressed is, -just because Obama didn’t sign this questionaire, does this mean he is against Asian American empowerment? If the questionaire in its original form is mandating quotas (which is illegal), then the other candidates essentially agreed to something that is illegal and impossible to fulfill. In other words, it’s an empty promise.

    I would like someone from 80-20 to clear up this discrepancy.

    –Randy on Jan 18, 2008

  9. Randy, 80-20 will not clear anything up. In fact, they are more likely to muddle it some more, and then blame people like you and me for raising a stink in the first place. Ask yourself this question, why in the world are the board members of a powerful and non-partisan Asian American PAC spending all their time trying to defeat one candidate using every means possible, including their very presense in these internet forums? Just to make sure their message sticks or somehow sabotage by possible opponents to their pre-determined candidate of choice? Are they actually political campaign workers? Why not just endorse one candidate and move on to the bigger fight? Why the resources and energy to “defeat” one candidate…and not resources and energy to “win” on our issues?

    –Mai on Jan 18, 2008

  10. There is nothing inconsistent or contradictory in what 80-20 does, even though at times, superficially, it may APPEAR as if 80-20 is acting in a contrarian manner. It is impractical to try to explain the complexities of minority political strategy in a few paragraphs, but I’ll at least try to answer the questions posed before.

    If you truly believe in working for Asian American civil rights, then please invest the time to study the 80-20 website. It explains why we have to use the carrot and stick approach for maximum effectiveness. Rewarding politicians who support us and punishing those who don’t is the dictum which determines the effectiveness of all PACs

    80-20 is INDEED non-partisan at the start of its mission at the beginning of every election cycle: It approaches ALL candidates of all significant parties with the same request and try to work with them with respect and sincerity. However, as the election contest progresses, we become extremely partisan in supporting those who agree to support our mission and fighting to defeat those who compete with our best candidate for votes. The best candidate is the one (whoever he or she may be of whatever party) who has shown the strongest commitment to us both in writing and in past deeds.

    As a minority PAC with limited resources, we have to be very smart about how we fight. We use every persuasion we can to get each of the candidates to support us. This is what we were able to do, one by one in the Democratic party in 2007. We have not had success with Obama, Kucinich, or any of the Republicans.

    So, why don’t we go attack all in the latter group equally? Because we have to fight the battles that will make a DIFFERENCE. Our goal is to obtain iron-clad MEASURABLE commitments from leading politicians who are likely to win the presidency. If we engage in widespread political battle such as by going after Republicans, it will dilute our focus on achieving victory for a leading candidate who has committed to support us.

    Some Asian Americans think we have a hidden agenda against Obama. Nothing could be further from the truth. If Obama had also answered YES to the 80-20 questionnaire, 80-20 would have remained neutral and not endorsed Clinton. We told Obama that in the Open Letter (see for yourself in the first paragraph of our Open Letter http://8020politicalpower.blogspot.com/2008/01/open-letter-to-sen-obama.html)

    However, since Obama refused to work with us, and he is an unsupportive competing candidate, we have no choice but to protect the leading candidate who is committed to us. IF it had been Clinton who refused to sign our letter and Obama did—in other words, if the roles had been reversed up to this point, 80-20 would have worked JUST AS HARD for Obama to defeat Clinton. We’d then be facing the wrath of the Clinton camp.

    Politics is raw and ugly. Both within and outside of the Asian American community, there are many who would love to see 80-20 fail and be crushed because what we do in the interst of all Asian Americans, directly conflicts with the private and personal interests of powerful individuals. But our fight on behalf of Asian Americans is purer and noble. As leaders we have to have the courage to stand up for what we know is the morally right thing to do and be steadfast in the face of scathing criticism by those who hate or misunderstand us.

    Achieving political power for Asian Americans is a daunting challenge in and of itself. It would be ideal to be able to educate and persuade every one along the way. However, reality is otherwise. It is because we seek no glory or personal reward, we rather focus our energies on doing the hard work that lead to results, than to engage in a popularity contest by trying to butt heads in blogs.

    Time and history will show that 80-20 blazed the trail for modern day Asian American civil rights.
    Succeeding in that goal is all the reward we need.

    Ed

    Dr. Edward Lin
    Director
    80-20 Initiative (http://www.80-20initiative.net)
    Equal Opportunity and Justice for ALL Asian Americans
    Encourage Inspire Empower
    “You must be the change you wish to see in the world” Mahatma Gandhi

    –Edward Lin on Jan 18, 2008

  11. PS.
    The Obama staff apparently was making reference to the earlier questionnaire signed by Biden, Dodd, et al which could possibly be misconstrued to imply a quota. That concern was addressed by a minor modification to the Questionnaire signed by Senators Clinton and Edwards. The Questionnaire offered to Senator Obama was the identical one signed by Clinton and Edwards.

    Everyone of the individuals who signed are highly experienced legislators and season lawyers. They also undoubtedly consulted their legal teams. Let’s respect their basic intelligence and not second guess the “legality” of the document. There is a lot of noise to try to distract from the real issues. 80-20 would never try to get seasoned politicians to sign an unenforceable document.

    –Edward Lin on Jan 18, 2008

  12. Dr. Lin, you have not commented on the fact that the quotas you ask for are illegal. That would in itself be reason not to sign. Judging by the poor level of communication between the parties, and the vitriol from 80-20, it’s not hard to see how any third party could conclude 80-20 has been partisan all along.

    Bottom line: Campaign says they’ve been trying to communicate with you, and your website claims that is totally false. Something doesn’t smell right.

    –Ravi on Jan 18, 2008

  13. BTW - Emil - you’ve got to be kidding; “all you have to do is suggest that a candidate is less than responsive to the community” is your lead line…

    My God, your headline last week blared “Why is Obama snubbing Asian Americans?” As if that were a proven fact. This is swift-boating - which is when a candidate’s strength is attacked in a one sided, emotional way. Kerry, war veteran, wasn’t a hero, he was a skunk. Obama, unifier and eloquent advocate, is actually Asian snubbing, inexperienced, insensitive.

    Nothing seems further from the truth.

    Moreover, Dr. Lin, you can’t honestly believe that all these disagreements about 80-20’s tactics are coming from the “powerful Obama machine”! That is ludicrous. These comments are coming from Asian Americans who feel connected and empowered by a visionary and transformational candidate who has tremendous potential in this divided era. You do us a disservice by going negative on Senator Obama.

    –Ravi on Jan 18, 2008

  14. To Edward Lin: Instead of speaking in vague generalities, why don’t you respond to the official response from Obama’s staff? I quoted the relevent parts in the post just above yours. At this point, it’s a “he-said-she-said” situation, with your version of events directly contradicting theirs.

    As I stated earlier, if your original questionaire asked for quotas and the other candidates signed it, then that makes it an EMPTY PROMISE since quotas are illegal and impossible to implement. You have a bunch of empty promises from candidates giving you lip service.

    And Emil, at least *pretend* to be a responsible journalist and research both sides of the issue before writing these articles of yours. Did you even try to contact Obama’s staff for an official response? There was an official response posted in the msg blog of your original article and you ignored it.

    The most blatantly ridiculous statement was this one:

    “This riled up some progressives, who bristle at any thing negative about their perceived golden boy.”

    How do you know what party I belong to? Did you ask? Your statement makes it sound as if their was mindless kneejerk opposition to anything negative about Obama when in fact most of the objections raised were extremely logical and thoughtful. Shame on you for your irresponsible journalism.

    –Randy on Jan 18, 2008

  15. Mai, I never heard of 80-20 until a couple of weeks ago and so far from their behavior, it appears that they are trying to make a “name” for themselves by trying to discredit one candidate.

    There’s actually nothing wrong with that, *IF* they have a solid basis for being against one candidate. But the immature behavior of their members is very disturbing.

    If you’re going to draw a line in the sand about an issue, you had better be sure you are on *rock solid* footing, with plenty of evidence to back your statements up…..such as quotes or campaign statements from Obama that indicate he will not support Asian Americans…..or stated policies that he supports.

    Instead all we have is…..a questionaire? Have any of you even actually SPOKEN to the man? 80-20 is acting more like a jilted LOVER than a serious political organization.

    –Randy on Jan 18, 2008

  16. Well, folks, one thing is certain: this brouhaha has “us” fighting and infighting among “ourselves,” which is bracing and “healthy” from one standpoint, and pointless and nonconstructive from another.
    Messrs. Woo and Lin and the 80/20 board majority here may, at least to themselves, have “pure and noble” motives, but, to this view, seem on shaky grounds in re “ironclad” “commitments” “in writing,” and the self=styled “carrot/stick” model echoes Rovian methods and tactics in its no=holds-barred drive to “successs” and “victory.”
    In the matter of “racial” “equalities” of position and opportunities, does it matter to history that the Ohio panjandrums in charge of the balloting were “black”?
    Or, if the next “tenured” judgeship, appellate or “supreme” were “Asian,” would it be a feather in “our” caps if he/she turned out to be another Scalia rather than an Oliver Wendell Holmes, or even a Warren?
    And, Emil, are you ironclad certain that perceived substantive “advances” and opportunities for Asians trump ALL ideals and hopes that transcend both color and creed?
    And I hope Randy and Mai and a few others here are cognizant of the obvious: that they are individuals punching it up with what amounts to a political machine, whatever its claims or cr3edentials.
    Though I doubt 8029 speaks, as it claims, for 700,000, even if it does, said figure amounts to what?, less than a quarter of one-percentum of the 30-mil APAs?
    Bottom line: Clinton, Edwards too?, has yet to renounce the theoneocon warmongerings, and may we azt lesat hope that Obama’s surprising showings to date will at least help nail down an antiwar plank at the next party convention, for EVERY

    –Frank Eng on Jan 18, 2008

  17. For EVERYone’s sake, including all the above.
    My personal rue here is that no one seems to be aware of the fact that what “Asians” here are truly striving for is self-worth, “respect” from others, then the chance to get out there and strive, compete?, with everyone else.
    And that can only come from education in the home and ine classroom, and, best of all, in direct, human, one-on-one intercourse, if you’ll pardon the expression. And that too as well.
    Those who perceive and “honor” Dubya over Cindy Sheehan, or Netanyahu over Hedy Epstein may yet be “outvoted” by “history,” and no doubt already so through much of the rest of the world not blanketed by a blinkered and bought “mainstream media.”
    That we should live in such “interesting times”!
    Frank Eng

    –Frank Eng on Jan 18, 2008

  18. Sorry to repost from last week’s comment page, but this seems worth it:

    Response to 80-20 from Obama AAPI Leaders

    Dear S.B. Woo,

    In response to your “Open Letter from the Asian Am Community” to Senator Barack Obama, we are sending this letter to address some apparent misunderstandings and misconceptions.

    As key supporters of the Obama campaign, we can assure you that the campaign is committed to reaching out to the Asian American community. The Senator has created an Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) National Leadership Council comprised of key AAPI leaders and activists from throughout the country to advise the campaign on identifying AAPI issues of concern and outreach. The campaign has provided an official statement of support and commitment to the Asian American Action Fund (AAA Fund). In fact, the AAA Fund of Greater Chicago has formally endorsed Senator Obama’s candidacy. The campaign has sent top surrogates to address the AAPI community’s concerns and their needs at candidate forums sponsored by Asian Pacific Americans for Progress (APAP) and the AAA Fund. The Senator, himself, emphasized his support of Asian Americans with his message of diversity through unity during his participation in the Iowa Heartland Presidential Forum. The campaign has outlined a comprehensive plan to reclaim the American Dream for Asian American and Pacific Islander families. Barack Obama is the only candidate to have a campaign-sponsored Asian American outreach webpage linked off of its main website.

    In an effort to further reach out to the AAPI community, the Obama campaign attempted to establish a dialogue with you regarding the 80-20 Educational Foundation’s questionnaire in December 2007. On Friday, December 14, 2007, Obama campaign staff had engaged in a phone conversation with you to discuss concerns regarding the wording of the questionnaire. The staff members had requested you to consider changes to questions 4 and 5, both of which relate to appointing AAPI judges, because of concerns that the questions implied a de facto quota. As you are aware, Senator Obama is a strong supporter of affirmative action and enhancing opportunities for Asian Americans, but he is a staunch opponent of the quota systems. The staff members requested that you consider modifying the wording of those questions to resemble the wording of question 6, which addresses considering qualified AAPIs for the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, you refused to consider modifications of the questions, and refused our request to explore other alternatives that would allow the Obama campaign to submit the completed questionnaire to the members of 80-20. In response to the 80-20 questionnaire as written, the Obama campaign did send you a letter confirming Senator Obama’s commitment to the enhancement of representation of Asian Americans in the federal judiciary system and ensuring equal opportunity in the workplace for not only Asian Americans, but for all Americans. Apparently, that was not acceptable to you.

    Since that conversation, we have been greatly disturbed by emails that were circulated from you to your membership, which included false statements regarding your communications or lack of communications with the Obama staff. 80-20’s emails have made untrue allegations as to the reasons why the Obama campaign has not submitted “Yes” or “No” answers to the questionnaire. 80-20’s emails have also unfairly targeted and ridiculed Senator Obama and his motivations for his run to the Presidency. The emails have reflected untrue claims regarding the roles of the Senator’s family members and supporters and their participation in the campaign. The allegations through your ongoing emails to your membership continue to be false and misleading. We ask that you to refrain from circulating untrue and unsubstantiated statements about the Senator, his family members, campaign supporters, and the Obama campaign staff.

    We encourage you, in the spirit of cooperation, to consider the changes the campaign requested in December or work with the campaign to find acceptable alternatives. We hope that 80-20 will rescind its Defeat Obama campaign. We do not understand why 80-20 has targeted Senator Obama and his candidacy even after the Obama campaign had attempted in good faith to establish a dialogue with 80-20. Other Democratic candidates at the time, including Governor Richardson and Congressman Kucinich, had not responded to the questionnaire, nor had any of the Republican candidates and yet none of them were targeted with a specific and deliberate campaign to defeat their candidacies.

    The Obama campaign pledges to continue to reach out to the Asian American community and recognizes the importance of contributions made by the members of the AAPI community to the growth and success of our country. We look forward to further strengthening our dialogue and position with the AAPI community in addressing their issues of concern and needs throughout this campaign. We are proud of the diverse coalition that has been built to support Barack Obama’s campaign for President, and we certainly encourage organizations like 80-20 to stand with us in our mission to affect positive change for our country.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely yours,

    Nancy Chen, IL.
    Former APA Outreach Director for the Office of Presidential Personnel (1996-1997) and Former Chicago Director for Senator Paul Simon (D–IL) (1991-1996); Co-chair, Obama AAPI National Leadership Council

    Ann Lata Kalayil, IL.
    Former DNC At-Large Member and APIA Caucus; Co-Chair, Obama AAPI National Leadership Council

    Stanley M. Toy, Jr. M.D., CA.
    Chairman, Los Angeles County Hospital and Healthcare Delivery Commission and President and CEO TEAM Healthcare; Former Deputy National Finance Chair for Kerry-Edwards 2004, DNC Delegate-at-Large 2004, Member, Kerry National Leadership Council; Co-Chair, Obama AAPI National Leadership Council

    –Ravi on Jan 18, 2008

  19. By the comments from Obama supporters, I know Asians have a long way to go in politics. Many asians think they are smarter than everyone else, they will support Obama even if Obama is ignoring them. Obama’s reason is more serious: not to raise suspicion of the majority (i.e. whites).

    –Ping on Jan 19, 2008

  20. Hi there,

    My name is Mashawnda Dowell, and I am a 30 year old Obama supporter, that happens to be African-American. I have great respect for the Asian-American community, and I would like to some way assist with the issues stated on this page.

    I have noticed that none of the canidates openly discuss the welfare of the Asian-American community. This should be acknowledged without a legal document to back it up.

    With that stated, I would like for you to take a good look at all the progress that the community has made until now-the present day. There has been a lot of progress…however, you want more right?

    Well the progress that you have to date, was because of your hard work…and that just happen to occur when Bill Clinton was in office. This election is pretty much for electing Bill again, but with Hillary in tact. So what has been done…will be done again.

    Obama, on the other hand is a minority, and we understand civil rights issues. We understand being overlooked and ignored. Besides his race, and your race, Obama has a track record for backing those that feel deeply about their desires. Many times these desires are not that of his own…but for the people. The Asian-American community is part of the United States, and there should be more AA’s in the government, and it will, when Sen. Obama is elected.

    However, instead of being on this blog and staying in a closed circle, you must reach out to the world—the different communities in America, besides your own. Take your concerns to the media—newpaper, radio, internet, and TV), this is how we do it in America.

    When you publically voice your desire, we will listen and then help.

    I am only one person, however, if there is anyway that I can help with issues pertaining to the Asian-American community and America—I am here to help. I am here to learn.

    Please re-consider your stance on Sen. Obama.

    If you have any questions on my post, please contact me at mashawnda@hotmail.com

    –Mashawnda Dowell on Jan 21, 2008

  21. WIth all due respect Mashawnda, your statement: “Take your concerns to the media—newpaper, radio, internet, and TV), this is how we do it in America. ” is a tad bit condescending. Many Asian Americans were born in this country. How else would native-born Asian Americans know “how to do things in America”? This is the only country we have ever known.

    Your statement implies that Asian Americans are perpetual foreigners who “just don’t get it” or understand American culture.

    –Randy on Jan 21, 2008

  22. I agree with Mashawnda….if you really want change, don’t just gripe-and-blog…write op-eds for the newspapers and unite community members who have the same views…tell who 80-20 is. In San Jose, those opposed to Madison Nguyen’s support of the name “Vietnamese Business District” have been very effective in getting their point across, even getting support from some SJ Mercury columnists.

    –Maria Z. on Jan 21, 2008

  23. To “smart” Obama supporters from Asians:

    Go look at the fact of comparions at http://www.80-20initiative.net/action/equalopp_glassceiling.asp

    Is the situation fair?

    Maybe you are smart, but you are certainly not as
    smart as African Americans as a whole:
    They get 20% management positions with 12% population and much less college degrees. Now they
    are using 90% of their votes to support an African American candidate.

    –John Lynn on Jan 23, 2008

  24. Tell you another inconvenient truth: while USA is overall the most competitive country on the world, our governmental efficiency is only at the 17th.

    You don’t care about your fellow Asian’s benefits,
    nor fairness and justice, but how about the future of this country?

    –John Lynn on Jan 23, 2008

  25. 90% of the black vote is going to Obama? Nonsense. In actuality, the black community is largely divided in its support of Obama and Clinton. In fact, there are more blacks that support Clinton than Obama.

    –Randy on Jan 23, 2008

  26. To African American friends visiting this site:
    It is absolutely your rights to vote for Obama.
    We are not as smart and powerful as you are because we have to work very hard to acheive a little, but my family and all asian friends around me have determined to say “No” to Obama for the sake of fairness and justice (the core value of America) and the future of this country.

    Randy: If you are an Asian, go look at the data of the Primary in Nevada and Iowa. If you are a black, … forget it.

    –John Lynn on Jan 24, 2008

  27. John Lynn, your post is barely intelligble. First of all, Obama is bi-racial. He is half-white and half-black. Secondly, you have not explained how voting for Obama would be detrimental to Asian Americans.

    If you want to be taken seriously, I would suggest you come up with some documentation on Obama showing a record of voting against issues that Asian Americans are in favor of.

    I have a hard time understanding your posts. There seems to be a subtle underlying layer of racism against blacks in your posts. ie, your comments about America’s “efficiency” and the number of blacks in managerial positions. I’m not sure what you’re getting at here, but if you can’t articulate your thoughts more clearly then you are not worth responding to.

    –Randy on Jan 24, 2008

  28. Emil,

    Thank you very much for “fanning the flames”, to borrow Alec’s wording.

    To Dr. Lin,

    I for one are following your leadership. Thank you and your colleagues very much for your works at 80-20. It is great that your action has caused some response, albeit mostly negative ones in this forum, from the Obama camp. I only wish that they cry louder to let more people to hear about 80-20. Great job!

    –Wei on Jan 30, 2008

  29. Wei, it’s pretty sickening that you would attribute this 80-20 controversy to no more than a publicity stunt for the organization. If you’re too ignorant to realize, it’s actually BAD publicity, not because anyone from any camp have some genuine opinions or reactinos, but because of 80-20’s very own actions, which is the source of the controversy, no? Great job for giving Asian American political activism in this country just the kind of dirty politics it desperately needs? I think not!

    –Mai on Jan 30, 2008

  30. From what I can surmised, reading the numerous comments on this issue, both Amok & 80-20 are culpuble for fanning the flame of discension within the Asian-American community. There is no need to induged in irresponsbible journalism without first verifing all the facts, & to engaged in “half-truths” & inuendoes for obvious political purpose. Asian Weekly should not be a party to this “swift-boating” attempt. 80-20 touted that they were in the fore front of the civil rights sruggle, maybe in their imagination, but nothing of consequence happened before Dr. King mobilized the effort ! So please stick to the facts & give credit where credit is due. Obama is beyond sectarian “special interest” & embraces inclusion, which renders your argument moot & irelevent ! Grow up & join with Obama in this most noble endeaver. If Obama wins, we all win !!!

    –Henry Y. Mar on Jan 31, 2008

  31. Mai,

    It is nice that Obama has realized the power of 80-20 and has signed the questionnaires. As I stated in my comment to Emil’s another opinion piece, he was my choice. Now he may well come back as my choice on Feb. 5 again.

    While politics is often dirty if you bother to open your eyes to, e.g., your comments, what 80-20 has done is not.

    –Wei on Feb 02, 2008

  32. I would not have answered that ridiculous question either. It sure looks like a trap with quotas in it. The President should appoint the most qualified judges, regardless of race or gender. The survey quoted here was provocative and left no option to simply “cross out” offending parts of it. If Obama’s people had crossed out certain words, 80-20 would have gone ballistic. This whole episode makes me support Obama more because I know he will not pander to groups based solely on race.

    –Carlos on Feb 06, 2008

  33. Interesting Obama held off because of the implicit quota. This man always wants it both ways. When he and Michelle went to Harvard Law, they were admitting blacks according to their US population, which you can only get if you have a quota. Also interesting African Americans have complained that children of economically and educationally advanced African Americans take up an unfair percentage of black spots - people exactly like Barack. As much as Barack paints himself as the new-beyond-race man, he won’t be able to be rise above it. I don’t think we’ll have a truly serious candidate until we get somebody like Condoleeza Rice who truly is smarter and more accomplished than the competition, not just a smart fast talking guy who takes advantage of his incredible luck (and yes talent) to move to head of the line.

    –Arthur Hu on Mar 15, 2008

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